Should I help bring the death penalty to life?

October 9th, 2006

I’ve never been a huge believer in the death penalty…at least not as an official function of the state. (I’m all in favor of the intended victim punching his assailant’s ticket at the time of the crime.)

But I want to give you folks who believe in the death penalty the chance to convince me to vote for it.

An opportunity to get another vote for your side? How often does that happen?

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  • 1. tee bee  |  October 9th, 2006 at 1:00 pm

    I’d respond, but I’m confused by your conflict.

    You think it’s okay for self-defense to include the death penalty, but you don’t trust a trial by jury to determine the same outcome?

  • 2. Fuzz Martin  |  October 9th, 2006 at 2:03 pm

    Here is my theory on the death penalty…

    a) it is not as effective as it once was because it is not done in the eyes of the public.

    b) to simply lethally inject a person does not necessarily do the justice that the criminal deserves. Sure, some say that they do feel pain before they die, but that’s not even the half of it. For some of these murderers, (see Steven Avery) the thought of simply putting them to sleep after the heinous crimes that they committed is unbearable. They should have to deal with all of the torment and pain that the victim went through. I think solitary confinement for life would be a good punishment. Either that or public execution.

    c) Life in prison is more like a vacation to some of these criminals. Nothing is going to come out of it for being able to watch tv, lift weights, and run in packs with other hardened criminals. So, if the choice is between letting someone eat, sleep, breathe, and socialize on the taxpayers dollars because they did something as awful as kill somebody in cold blood, I say execute them.

    My verdict: yes to the death penalty, but only if the penalty is carried out in a courtyard or somewhere in public where other criminals and the public can see what is going to happen to them if they follow in the same footsteps.

  • 3. Administrator  |  October 9th, 2006 at 2:16 pm

    I don’t blame you for being confused.

    I am, too. That’s sort of the point.

    I believe completely in the right to self defense (up to and including lethal force).

    I am less comfortable with the state exercising lethal force after the fact. I have to admit, I think that the whole process is disturbing.

    On the whole, I would prefer that killers get life in prison without parole AND be forced to work to pay for the costs of their imprisonment and pay restitution to the family of their victim.

    Do I think that’s going to happen any time soon?


  • 4. scott  |  October 10th, 2006 at 2:34 pm

    I’m with you, Elliott. I’m perfectly willing to use lethal force to defend myself if necessary, but I am against the death penalty.

    First, I don’t buy for a second that it’s a deterrent for the kinds of crimes that merit its application. People that wacked are unlikely to be swayed by rational consideration of the repercussions.

    Second, I worry that the process is imperfect, leading to innocent people receiving death sentences, and death sentences being issued to certain kinds of people more than others.

    Third, all this talk of painful public execution and “solitary confinement for life” is barbaric and totally unbefitting civilized people anywhere. I would not support such things for any crime, under any circumstances. Ever. It’s inhumane. If a dog bites someone you may have to euthenize it, but you don’t torture it. Not only do I not agree with this, I don’t even want to know anyone who seriously thinks it’s a good idea.

    Fourth, if you could convince me that the death penalty would be applied fairly, accurately, humanely, and only in the most heinous of crimes, I’d still be against it. Not because I have a lot of sympathy for child murderers, but because I happen to know that it costs me more to execute someone than it does to imprison them for life. (SURE, it could cost less… if you start removing key elements of process that ensure it’s applied fairly…so, no, that’s not going to work.)

  • 5. Crawford  |  October 20th, 2006 at 9:14 pm

    So how much are you willing to RAISE YOUR TAXES TO PAY FOR THIS???

    New York and New Jersey have spent over $360 million to reinstate their death penalty and no one has been put to death yet in their exhaustive and ridiculous 10 year waste of taxpayer money…


    This is by far the WORST example of unnecessary, runaway fiscally irresponsible, GOP bullsh*t.

    Bait and switch, bait and switch…

    Another unnecessary bloated waste of taxpayer dollars. Like Iraq and DHS….

    You’re too smart to fall for this…

    How much debt do you want in this state?

    What happens if YOU are the one who is wrongly charged??? Check out the story on my blog yesterday…

    Go to your library and ask for The Exonerated. It’s the story of 6 of 123 Americans proven to be wrongly accused and put on death row. Many more didn’t get to prove their innocence in time…

    Do you want to PAY MORE TAXES to have that blood on your hands?

    If you are willing to pay your hard earned dollars to set up this system and then more of your money to run it for the rest of your life, go ahead, vengence can be yours instead of God’s…well kind of, vengence will be at the mercy of District Attorneys running expensive and high profile trials to get the free media exposure (well at tax payer cost ultimately) in election years.

    ( for the stats and facts on cost…)

    Don’t believe me? Go ahead and vote yes…I guarantee it’s a vote you will regret someday.

    If not or you just don’t know, VOTE NO!!!!

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