Would there be a U.S.A., if Liberals had been running things 250 years ago?
October 10th, 2007
No way.
Let’s start with the simple fact that our forefathers literally stole America from the natives (mostly by killing them with smoothbores, viagra sale cure smallpox and single malt whiskey).
Today’s Liberals can’t stand us being in Iraq or Vietnam even temporarily.
I doubt they’d be in favor of taking over an entire country permanently.
Now, mind let’s imagine that somehow the original colonies were formed without disrupting the indians. Does anyone think that Liberals would revolt against their Government over TAXES?
And how would they revolt anyway? In the gun-free world advocated by Liberals only the Red Coats would have had weapons.
But let’s say the British just let the Colonists go without firing a shot. The United States still wouldn’t exist in the form it does today. The American Southwest and California are only parts of the United States because James K. Polk (a Democrat, by the way) started an illegal war and seized those areas from Mexico.
Now, I’m not saying that any of the above actions were “right.”
I’m just pointing out that the United States wouldn’t even exist as a nation, if we’d always (or even occasionally) acted in the past the way that
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8 Comments Add your own
1. Nick | October 10th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
They may not have been “right”, but they certainly weren’t “left”
2. folkbum | October 10th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
I could make a similar list, asking if the current flavor of conservatives would have given us the American we all know and love, too.
No religious test for office? Power shared among equal branches of government? No unreasonable searches or seizures? You get the idea.
3. Elliot | October 10th, 2007 at 7:14 pm
Not the same, though, Jay. America might well be Amerika under the Neocons, but my point is there wouldn’t be any America at all under today’s Liberal principals.
The proper Liberal response to this post would probably be something like “well, then, maybe there shouldn’t be an America.” That would at least be philosophically consistent. ;)
4. still Unreal... | October 11th, 2007 at 8:41 am
Abso-smurfly-not.
5. BobG | October 11th, 2007 at 9:46 am
The founders were more libertarian than anything.
6. Tim | October 11th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Actually, the Torys were closest to what one would call conservatism today, and Jefferson, Adams, et al, were considered anarchists and followers of dangerous liberal thought.
Conservatives were the traitors to the experiment that would become the United States of America.
7. Elliot | October 11th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
That’s true, Tim. But it has about as much value as a modem Republican pointing out that it was a Republican who freed the slaves.
8. Tim | October 12th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
I’m glad you point the Lincoln false analogy out. And mostly you’re right, though it’s always been those darn liberals who are blamed, in any century, for going against the status quo. And the status quo certainly applied to the Torys.
Having said that, apply your return comment (to my first comment) to your final sentence in the post (helpfully provided here).
I’m just pointing out that the United States wouldn’t even exist as a nation, if we’d always (or even occasionally) acted in the past the way that Liberals would have us act in the present.
What was that about value of comparing apples to oranges?
Though I have to say it would be an interesting story. I read a book sometime ago about different timelines. In one, WWI was still being fought late in the 1980s.
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