Why does the Left in America hate America?

April 9th, 2008

Now, viagra canada cialis I know that not every Liberal hates America.

My point is, best cialis no rx I can’t even think of a time I heard someone from the Right say they hated America.

And, discount yet, you hear it fairly often from the Left.

They say they hate America for its racism. They hate America for what it has done, for what they imagine it has done, and for what it has failed to do. They spell America with a K. They burn flags. They sit silent (or maybe cheering) as a preacher shouts “God damn, America.” They hate America for electing George Bush.

But when Bill Clinton was president, folks on the Right never said, “I hate America,” or “I hate Bill Clinton’s America,” they said, “I hate Bill Clinton.”

From the Right I hear, “I hate Affirmative Action.” Or, “I hate taxes.” Or, “I hate Liberals.”

But I never hear, “I hate America.”

So, I’m asking a serious question here:

Why do so many folks on the Left actually say they hate America?

Is it because, at heart, they know that so many of the things they hate about America (the freedom to keep and bear arms, the freedom to offend others with what you say, the freedom to make a profit) represent the “real” America?

The America that was carved out of the wilderness by individualists and iconoclasts?

The America that was taken away from the Indians and Mexicans at gunpoint?

The America that is more interested in independence than in interdependence?

Maybe I’m wrong (it certainly wouldn’t be the first time), but it seems to me that people on the Right never say they hate America, because they know that the things they do hate about America can be changed and don’t represent the true nature of our great nation.

But the people on the Left who say they hate America believe that the very things they hate most about America – our looking out for our own self-interest, our competitiveness, our love of business, our warlike nature, our individualism, our disregard for high culture, our tolerance of inequality in the interest of rewarding excellence, and our uncivilized insistence on personal responsibility – are the very things that make America…America.

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  • 1. Robert L.  |  April 9th, 2008 at 11:14 am

    A dominant theme of Green Morality is the hatred of hierarchy. It is assumed that hierarchy is always the result of some sort of wrong doing.

    The US is the only superpower, both militarily and economically, and thus has a hierarchical relationship with the rest of the world, which makes us wrong (to the Greens) by definition.

    Because the US is wrong, other countries are ‘right’ by default. This is one of the reasons why you see such consistent doublethink from the Greens on international issues. One example is that it is evil ‘cultural imperialism’ when US culture goes abroad but good ‘diversity’ when foreign culture makes it to the US. Another example is the Greens’ love of Chavez in Venezuela when they would explode if Bush tried any of the ‘president for life’ crap Chavez is pulling.

  • 2. capper  |  April 9th, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    I don’t hate America, but like all things, I recognize that even as great as it is, it is not perfect, and has a lot of room for improvement. What is so wrong with that?

  • 3. elliot  |  April 9th, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    Nothing at all, Cap.

    I agree it can be better. What I don’t understand are the people who actually say they hate America instead of the things that make America less than what they would like it to be.

  • 4. capper  |  April 9th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    I would accredit it to poor communication skills. I used to do a group therapy session for adolescent boys. We spent untold hours teaching them to say, “I don’t like it when you say ….” rather than “You dumb motherbleeper”. People just don’t know how to handle their anger, their fears, and criticism and then they teach the next generation, and the problems grow.

  • 5. Debunked  |  April 10th, 2008 at 6:54 am

    First of all, I believe it was an ultra-conservative who stated, after 9-11, that “God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.” Reverend Jerry Falwell.

    So, it doesn’t seem to be something “purely” liberal.

    Second, the whole “Liberals Hate America” thing is just a propaganda piece dating back to those who were outspoken against the war being “unpatriotic.” Somehow, the right managed to convince their followers that if you don’t believe the way they believe, then you are unpatriotic and you hate America. I know that right wingers I spoke to pre-Iraq invasion stated it was the right thing to do because terrorism, nukes, blah blah blah… Yet, when I argued that there was no evidence Saddam had nuclear weapons and no solid justification for invading Iraq, they would ask why I hate America and why I’m unpatriotic (even though those words were never spoken by me).

    I was under the impression that the founding fathers created an America where it was acceptable to speak out against government. And yet, it seems to me the right has convinced their followers that that is not an American thing to do.

    This is perhaps why statements of “I hate America” are more attributed to the left. Because the right wing base has been ingrained throughout their life and reinforced that you do not speak bad about your country. While the left typically can distance themselves from those ideals and actually make critical outlooks on the situation at hand.

    So, I guess my summary is this. Liberals do not hate America. Instead, people who claim liberals state that are merely following propaganda laid out by the conservative base, which took hold and made people really think that when liberals are making their arguments against the current administration’s plans, they are in fact being unpatriotic and stating they “hate America.”

  • 6. 3rd Way  |  April 10th, 2008 at 11:12 am

    There are right wing nut jobs that say they hate America too. Such as the McVeigh militant types and the religious fanatic types.

    Anyone that says they hate this country is a buffoon. The left certainly does not have the market cornered on buffoonery. I reject the notion that they even dominate that market. We both could sit here all day long and throw out examples of buffoons from opposing sides of the political spectrum.

  • 7. elliot  |  April 10th, 2008 at 11:33 am

    Interesting point, 3rd Way, but even McVeigh said he hated the government not America itself.

    In fact, he probably viewed himself as a patriot.

    I think I’m going to stick to my guns on this one.

    Saying “I hate America” (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/8/172058/4195) is something you hear way more often from the Left than the Right.

    I thought Capper had an interesting point when he said, “I would accredit it to poor communication skills.”

    But plenty of folks of the Right have lousy communication skills, just look at whom the Press trots out to represent the Conservative point of view on gun rights.

    And yet, you still very, very rarely hear even the craziest folks who think of themselves as being on the Right…the White Supremacists, the Militia groups, etc… say they hate America.

    I’m sure this post is coming across as an attack on the Left, and oddly enough, I don’t mean it that way. It’s just an observation in search of an explanation.

  • 8. BobG  |  April 10th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    I have to side with Elliot on this one; I’ve been hearing people saying how they hate America since the sixties, and the overwhelming majority were on the far left.

  • 9. 3rd Way  |  April 10th, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    I agree it is more socially acceptable to say “I hate America” on the far left than it is on the far right.

    I think your point about McVeigh saying he hated the government not America itself holds true for most if not all of the America haters on the left.

    If you could pin down all the lefty America haters I would wager that it would be hard to find more than a couple that say they hate our form of democracy or our constitution. I suspect they hate the way it has been manipulated by powers they see as working against the best interests of the people.

    I suspect Capper is right it has more to do with an inability to articulate what they hate about America rather than a disdain for the place as a whole.

    No matter what the reason is it should not be socially acceptable. Our country has a lot of problems, but we also still have the tools to straighten them out. We should love our country because of that fact.

  • 10. capper  |  April 10th, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    Elliot, I’ll be posting something about this. My thoughts are too long for a comment. I’ll let you know. It’ll be a more in depth essay of my comment. I’d do it tonite, but I’m just too tired for that kind of heavy lifting.

  • 11. capper  |  April 11th, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    Here is my long-winded answer.

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  • 13. milwaukee social worker  |  April 12th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    It’s kind of funny that you seem offended by the statement ” I hate America.” What is America? Is it an object? a location? an ideal? an historical concept? a way of living? It may be something different for everyone.

    In reading Mickey Z’s argument as well as others which appeared when I “googled” hating America, most seem to give an argument citing elements of our country which cause them pain or frustration as well as possible ways to aid the malaise. It’s no different from the goals of the right- label problems and create solutions. I would have to agree with capper and debunked in that this topic as the concern with liberals stating they hate america is purely sensationalism, semantics, or poor communication. Obviously, we have the choice to leave the country if we are so unhappy. The fact that we are here and discussing issues points to a love for at least some portion of the country or the idea of what the country could be. I could see that some on the left may feel that the country is or has been so filled with unfavorable legislation and political action resulting in a larger sense of being defeated or feeling as if the country is failing.

    I would not say that I hate America (the nation-state and country). But I may state that I am saddened by policies which neglect the poor, alienate the already marginalized individuals, and create more barriers for those trying to overcome. I may state that I am hurt by the political games, poor foreign relations, and uncertainty regarding our long term sustainability. If those statements seem like hatred to some, then I will accept their interpretation in the hope that they still understand the message.

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