The daughter of a Muslim victim of 9/11:
August 8th, 2010
To the supporters of this new Islamic cultural center, discount cialis and I must ask: Build your ideological monument somewhere else, far from my mother’s grave, and let her rest.
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1. grumps | August 8th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Addressing the UN General Assembly, Bush expressed sympathy for the political plight of the people of the Middle East, saying “You have been fed propaganda and conspiracy theories that blame others for your country’s shortcomings.”
“And everywhere you turn, you hear extremists who tell you that you can escape your misery and regain your dignity through violence and terror and martyrdom.”
“My country desires peace. Extremists in your midst spread propaganda claiming that the West is engaged in a war against Islam. This propaganda is false and its purpose is to confuse you and justify acts of terror,” he said.
“We respect Islam, but we will protect our people from those who pervert Islam to sow death and destruction,” said Bush, making the point that the objective was to help societies become more tolerant and hopeful and one that honors people of all faiths and promotes the peace.
2. Elliot | August 9th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Just because you have the right to do it, doesn’t mean it’s right to do it.
3. grumps | August 9th, 2010 at 9:32 am
You mean, like open carry?
4. TerryN | August 9th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Since Islam is a religion of peace I’m surprised that they don’t want to make peace with the families of the 9/11 victims.
5. Debunked | August 9th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
“Just because you have the right to do it, doesn’t mean it’s right to do it.”
And what, exactly, makes it wrong to do it? Other than the irrational hatred and bigotry of an entire sect of people because of the actions of an extremist few of course.
6. Elliot | August 9th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
The stated purpose of the mosque is to help heal the wounds of 9/11, but for many of the families of the victims (including the one quoted here) this center feels like salt in their wounds. How is that supposed to promote healing?
Do they have a right to build the mosque? Of course, they do. The First Amendment guarantees it.
But if building the center is going to have the opposite affect of the stated purpose, is it still the “right” thing to do?
I don’t think it’s irrational or bigoted to ask that question.
7. Debunked | August 9th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
I think the more appropriate question is, why would it feel like “rubbing salt in the wounds” to the families of the victims?
Obviously, the quoted article is saying that the mosque isn’t fulfilling its duty based on the outcry of the planned creation of said mosque. The person would never have made such an article if it was well received.
Thus, we should focus on the people who originally made said outcry. And so I ask again. Why such a problem?
8. John Foust | August 9th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
So what else can’t we have within 1,000 feet of ground zero?
9. Elliot | August 9th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
I’d say no airports for sure.
10. TerryN | August 9th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Foust, your question is meaningless unless directed at the families of the victims.
11. John Foust | August 9th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
The families of victims? How long do they get to be in charge? You want special positions for them on zoning boards?
Where’s the free market, you weak capitalists? Out-bid them. Speak with your dollars. You want a special Muslim-free zone, then pay for it.
12. TerryN | August 10th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
“How long do they get to be in charge?”
As long as they’re alive. But it’s apparent you don’t think they have a right to grieve anymore. Ground zero is just a final resting place, they should get over it, right?
13. John Foust | August 10th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
A right to grieve means veto power over the construction of a minority church? You’ve got to be kidding. “Defending America starts with defending our values. “We” are America. And “we” are Christians and Jews and Muslims and Atheists. A movement to restrict the freedom of one of us to worship — and a corresponding move to demonize a minority religion — is an affront to us all.”
14. TerryN | August 10th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
So defending our values means letting a religion with entirely opposite values show us how wrong we are?
Nobody said they can’t build anywhere else in New York. They only ask that the Cordoba Project consider what happened to 3000 people and respect their families.
I would ask for the same respect from my fellow countrymen, if I had been unlucky enough to be an employee or visitor at the World Trade Center the day Muslim extremists carried out their elaborate plan.
I now see that, that would be too much to ask from you.
15. John Foust | August 10th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
“A religion”? Quick, which sect of Islam planned the attack? Which wants to build? You want our government to define which religion is which, which is OK, and which followers are now responsible for some other followers’ actions?
16. TerryN | August 11th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Answer: The Radical Sect planned the attack.
Which sect was dancing in the streets throughout the world after it?
You want to disrespect the victims families, I don’t.
Is there nothing sacred to a secular progressive except government?
17. John Foust | August 11th, 2010 at 10:35 am
So which sacred sites can we keep Christians from building near? Which government agency decides?
What about inter-Christian battles? I bet the Wisconsin Synod folks would prefer to be physically isolated at a respectful distance from all the other infidels. Should that be granted, too, by the local City Council?
18. grumps | August 11th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Forget it, John. Terry only believes in freedom for his religion.
19. John Foust | August 11th, 2010 at 10:39 am
But Grumps! 9/11! 9/12! Terrrists! Ground Zero is special, so special, it requires suspension of fundamental rights we consider the most dear! Can’t you show some respect for the New Eternal War?
20. TerryN | August 11th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Polls show 70% opposition to the mosque from NYC residents. Last time I checked, NYC isn’t exactly the bastion of conservatism in the US.
Yet Foust and Grumps deride me for taking a stand, even to the point of implying my religious beliefs instead of defending their positions. That’s liberalism at it’s core. After a few years of reading both of your comments I see you both pick and choose which of the first ten amendments you wish to support.
I can only suggest you both edify yourselves before trying to argue a point so you can cite facts instead of resorting to derision. Any idea of the planned construction date? Who’s financing the project? Why the 9/11 families are opposed?
I reiterate. The Opposition to the Cordoba Project has no intention of preventing Muslims from their first amendment rights. They just want them to respect the families of the victims of 9/11. Apparently that is too much to ask.
21. John Foust | August 12th, 2010 at 8:27 am
I mention the most common religion in the USA, and you think I’m making implications about yours? You could be Jain for all I know. Why does it make a difference? I mention an odd sect that’s not uncommon in Wisconsin, who’d be likely to ask for similar amounts of respect, and I touch a nerve?
I point out that you’re asking for a fundamental suspension of Constitutional rights, and in response you suggest I’m the one who doesn’t like the Constitution. Follow the logic!
22. John Foust | August 12th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Watch closely on this Daily Show report, there’s a cheesehead.
23. John Foust | August 17th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Other stuff on hallowed ground.
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