More proof that teachers’ unions are the enemies of our children

August 17th, 2010

The L.A. Times is running a series of stories about the quality of teachers in L.A.

It seems that standardized test results show that some teachers consistently help their students improve while others consistently do not.

Rather than embrace the teachers who are outperforming their peers, viagra sale capsule the union wants to boycott the paper.

In calling for the boycott, cialis A.J. Duffy, president of United Teachers Los Angeles, said:

“You’re leading people in a dangerous direction, making it seem like you can judge the quality of a teacher by … a test.”

I always find this objection side-splitting considering that teachers themselves have always measured the quality of their own students using…

….wait for it…


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10 Comments Add your own

  • 1. grumps  |  August 17th, 2010 at 8:38 am

    No. We can measure progress along a learning track with a test. We can measure the accrual of knowledge or the comprehension of a subject with a test.

    We can’t measure the “quality” of a teacher with a single test or measure because “quality” is a combination of many factors many combinations of which add up to the desired characteristics.

  • 2. Elliot  |  August 17th, 2010 at 8:53 am

    “Quality” is not a measure of many factors.

    Teachers are being paid to improve their students’ understanding and facility with a given topic.

    Tests are used to measure that improvement.

    Teachers who consistently improve their students’ performance are good teachers.

    Those who do not are not.

    I really, truly do not understand what’s so difficult to comprehend about this.

  • 3. Chris from Racine  |  August 17th, 2010 at 9:10 am

    This honestly sounds like something out of the Onion. Unbelievable!

    Elliot – you hit the nail on the head.

  • 4. John Foust  |  August 17th, 2010 at 9:29 am

    I think a quality teacher is one who deviates sufficiently from the textbook approved by the Texas School Board, and who imparts knowledge that wasn’t on that test.

    If “quality” is defined by the satisfaction of the customer, who gets to make the test to judge the teacher? The party in power? Or the parents?

  • 5. Debunked  |  August 17th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    I will agree with standardized tests on students to provide metrics on teachers when said teachers are granted the authority to fire the students they don’t want taking said tests.

    Oh wait, that already happens. It’s called private schools.

  • 6. Elliot  |  August 17th, 2010 at 10:50 am

    Did you read the L.A. Times articles, Debunked?

    The point was there was often a clear and demonstrable difference in outcomes within the very same school. The students weren’t different. The teachers were.

  • 7. John Foust  |  August 17th, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    I looked for the original source of the union leader’s quote. Couldn’t find it. What was inside the ellipsis?

    Elliot, you make it sound like this is a solved problem, and that the solution is easy. It’s as if you are suggesting that there exists a simple method to determine whether a teacher is “good” and that there’s no one within a teacher’s union, anywhere, who has the power or will to implement the obvious solution.

  • 8. TerryN  |  August 17th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Yea, Elliott. You’re stating the obvious.

    And how the Texas School Board got into the comment thread of a story about L.A, CA teachers puzzled me until I saw who brought it up.

    Clever? Not to me…

  • 9. John Foust  |  August 18th, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    The Texas School Board isn’t in the story, Terry. It was in my description of what might make a good teacher. Unions aren’t the only ones eager to muck with the edumacationsamal process, are they?

  • 10. Dan  |  August 19th, 2010 at 2:36 am

    If you read the articles, which obviously some people have not, the Times make a very good case for evaluating teachers over a course of years based on tests.
    Teachers who dn’t teach core classes, like P.E., special ed., music etc would have to have different standards.

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