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February 8th, 2011

I agree in principle with liberal blogger Capper when he writes, viagra generic ask “You Get What You Pay for.”

After all, discount that’s often true when it comes to cars or computers.

The problem is, when it comes to government, you often get much less than you paid for.

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  • 1. Fuzz  |  February 8th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    True, unless you don’t pay anything. At that point, the handouts are plentiful.

  • 2. Debunked  |  February 8th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    Yup. And currently, 30 cents of every dollar I pay in income taxes goes to the military industrial complex in some manner.

    After that, 21 cents of every dollar I pay goes to, well, a ton of things lumped under mandatory spending. “Food Stamps, Unemployment Compensation, Child Nutrition and Tax Credits, Supplemental Security for the Disabled and Student Loans.”

    11 cents of every dollar I pay in income taxes goes to Medicaid.
    6 cents of every dollar I pay goes to national debt interest.
    2.7 cents goes to the Department of Transportation.
    1.7 cents goes to the Department of Education.

    If we could only cut out the thing eating up the largest chunk of income taxes… maybe I’d actually get what I want out of my taxes. If we could only mathematically calculate what that one huge thing is eating up all of our taxes and driving us into debt. But that would require 2nd grade mathematics, and.. well we know how bad our public schools are, so that might be asking too much. We should just stop giving them those 1.7 cents per dollar. That’ll fix those government inefficiencies!

    ** Numbers based off 2010 federal budget numbers gathered at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget after subtracting Social Security and Medicare as those are funded through Social Security and Medicare tax.

  • 3. John Foust  |  February 8th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    Depends on the meaning of “get”, and then the semi-clever aphorism barely makes any sense. All the money gathered by government goes somewhere. Heck, they’ll even print more than we give them. You’re paying today for promises made decades ago.

    Keep ignoring the past, present and future cost of all that war, and focus on cutting a million here, a million there, especially if it comports with some political buzzword of the moment, and the desires of last election’s biggest campaign contributors.

  • 4. Elliot  |  February 8th, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    I’m all for cutting the defense budget.

    (Of course, when the Chinese invade Taiwan, I’ll probably start whistling a different tune. ;)

  • 5. fishaddict  |  February 8th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    I agree cut every civilian position from the military budget. We have all the rates needed to do anything in the civilian world. Then cut all the reproductive organs from any family that has spent more time on welfare than in a tax paying job, make all the govt civilian workers pay equal to the comprable military job minus the retirement benefit. Then remove all the non constitutionally mandated spending like education, nutrition, health care, transportation, and so on and we should be good. Remember debunked, out of all that you mentioned only the military is actually a responsibility of the feds.

  • 6. Debunked  |  February 9th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Because blanket things like “education” or “nutrition” obviously do not fall under the general Welfare clause which, as I’m sure you are aware, is made reference to under the first enumerated power of Congress.

    Not to mention things like “public education” definitely weren’t heavily pushed by Thomas Jefferson or supported by George Washington. You know, those revered Founding Fathers who helped draft the very legislation you so boldly claim not only does not grant that power, but indeed, removes that power from the federal government.

    Wow, it’s all so clear now.

  • 7. Elliot  |  February 9th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    If “general welfare” in the preamble provides for the Federal government to manage my education and my nutrition, I’m looking forward to the police state authorized by “insure domestic tranquility”!

  • 8. Debunked  |  February 9th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Your usage of the verbiage “manage” is intentionally worded to make it sound as if the government is aggressively restricting your freedoms in these areas.

    The correct way to word it is the federal government has the authority to provide for or ensure the existence of quality levels of education and health for all of its citizens.

    Also, I mentioned the usage of the phrase “provide for the general Welfare” specifically as it pertains to the Powers of Congress section of the US Constitution; not the preamble.

    And all of this is vastly side-stepping the point I was making. The point being, that the federal government (despite what conservatives are led to believe) spends almost nothing on the departments of education, health and human services, or transportation).

    But these are the very areas that are attacked as being the reason for the national debt when, in reality, the primary reason for the national debt is the overly bloated and out of control military spending. Until we are willing to slash the military budget by at least 30-40% (or more), any talk of reducing the spending that accounts for 1% of Federal budget in order to balance the budget is laughable.

  • 9. John Foust  |  February 9th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Where’s the endless obsession with the meaning of words and Original Intent of the Founders when it comes to massive military spending beyond our borders?

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