It isn’t the guns

October 15th, 2007

I found the following quote in a Newsweek story about the recent school shooting in Cleveland:

“Let’s get real about this: the problem is guns, cialis usa cialis ” says Dr. Jeffrey Claridge, order the trauma surgeon who operated on Grassie. “If he had a knife, he wouldn’t have been able to do the damage he did so quickly.”

That’s true, he probably wouldn’t have been as dangerous to as many people with a knife…

…but denied a gun he could have easily made a bomb.

And IEDs have killed way more people in Iraq than guns have.

Let’s get real about this: it’s not the guns. It’s the people who use them.

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8 Comments Add your own

  • 1. capper  |  October 15th, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    Not that I am necessarily backing this statement, but…if the people who misuse guns didn’t have the access to the guns in the first place, then they couldn’t misuse them, could they?

  • 2. Elliot  |  October 16th, 2007 at 7:17 am

    The problem, Capper, is the focus on the guns.

    The people who commit horrible violent acts will always find ways to commit those acts.

    Sometimes following a divorce a distraught dad will use a gun to kill his ex-wife and children.

    A man I grew up with who found himself in similar circumstances didn’t have access to a gun. Did that prevent something horrible? No. He put his two kids into his car and drove into an oncoming semi killing all three of them.

    The tools aren’t the problem. The circumstances (and the characters of the people who commit heinous acts) are.

    By demonizing guns, all we do is ensure that that tool isn’t available for any non-criminal uses. No law has ever stopped guns from being used for illegal purposes. And even it guns were to magically disappear, the bad guys would turn to something else.

    Liberals are all in favor of addressing root problems, but when it comes to gun violence all they ever want to do is ban the tool not deal with the cause.

  • 3. grumps  |  October 16th, 2007 at 9:08 am

    Okay. Let’s play a game. Where can you find this money quote day after day at the top of a local blog and how does it play into the “responsible gun owwners” meme?

    People that hate guns haven’t met enough people that deserve to be shot.

  • 4. Rustmeister  |  October 16th, 2007 at 10:14 am

    Capper, it would be nice if we could just miracle away every implement of destruction, but we can. That genie’s been out of the bottle for hundreds of years. Here’s a quote from blogger Sailorcurt:

    The liberal answer to drugs: Education
    The liberal answer to teen pregnancy: Education
    The liberal answer to Aids/STDs: Education
    The liberal answer to gun safety: “Oh my GAWD…get that THING away from me!!!”

    Gun safety education would go a long way to preventing accidental/negligent shootings in households.

    Grumps, the guy who wrote that was either into hyperbole, or from Texas. :-)

  • 5. Chris  |  October 16th, 2007 at 10:17 am

    I will play Grumps, dad 29 ?

    And there is some truth to that statement.

  • 6. Rustmeister  |  October 16th, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    it would be nice if we could just miracle away every implement of destruction, but we can

    Should be “can’t”

  • 7. capper  |  October 16th, 2007 at 8:54 pm


    I enjoyed that little poem. Painfully accurate. However, two things.

    The referral to Texas made me realize that the truth about CCW will never be known while there are laws prohibiting whether or not the killers were licensed to carry.

    Two, while someone committed to do harm is likely to do that harm, it is less likely and easier to stop if we make it harder for them to do in the first place. I haven’t heard of too many drive-by butter knifings due to mean mugging.

    Oh, and Eliot, a colleague of mine in Wausau, going through a divorce, won custody of the couple’s 11 year old son. During a scheduled visit, she shot her own son dead, and waited for her ex-husband to show,with the intent to kill him as well. This was based on the suicide note she left. I can’t help but think she may have found it a little harder to murder her own son, if the gun wasn’t so available, which made the deed so easy to do.

  • 8. triticale  |  October 17th, 2007 at 10:11 am

    Counterexample. Before I met her, the woman I married was living on her own, and a man a foot taller and 100 lbs. heavier than her kicked in the door of her apartment. She survived unscathed but wouldn’t have if the gun wasn‚Äôt so available, which made the deed so easy to do.

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