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March 12th, 2010

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  • 1. Debunked  |  March 12th, 2010 at 10:49 am

    So are you advocating an increase in unemployment during a recession? That will only further help the downward economic trend.

    Or are you simply bemoaning the above average pay government workers receive when the article clearly points out the obvious reason by that – government employees tend to be positions that require more specialized skill-sets than all the burger flipper, cash register operating, or janitorial type which will obviously bring the private sector average down.

  • 2. Elliot  |  March 12th, 2010 at 11:52 am

    I’m just asking a serious question. What would it take to decrease the number of government employees?

    When the economy is good, private and public employers hire.

    When the economy is bad, private employers lay-off and public employers hire.

    What circumstances exist where it’s ever the right time to trim government payrolls?

  • 3. John Foust  |  March 13th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    If you knew the answer to that question, and had a plan, you could give it to to the teabaggers and then they’d have a start on a platform.

  • 4. Roland Melnick  |  March 14th, 2010 at 8:52 am

    So in this thread, Foust, you imply that “teabaggers” are just an insignificant bunch of rabble in need of a platform…yet, in another thread ( http://www.fromwhereisit.org/?p=7297&cpage=1 ) you claim they are corporate financed astroturf. So which is it?

    Have you had a discussion with a “teabagger” that didn’t start out with you insulting them?

    All sorts of Liberals constantly tell us we need to understand the mentality behind all sorts of violence (from daily gang violence to Islamist terror), yet when hundreds of thousands of passionate folks peaceably assemble to protest ever-expanding government, high taxes and unresponsive politicians those same Liberals hurl every insult their feeble minds can conjure up.

  • 5. Debunked  |  March 14th, 2010 at 10:04 am

    I don’t see anybody making any references to teabaggers or teapartiers in the thread you linked (except for one reference by you, Roland). Nor do I see anybody saying any of the following words: corporate, financed, or astroturf.

    So.. uhmm.. I’m confused.

  • 6. John Foust  |  March 14th, 2010 at 11:38 am

    Assemble all you like, Roland. Show me the plan. Tell me where you want to be, and how you’re going to get there, and who is standing in your way, and why.

  • 7. Roland Melnick  |  March 14th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    Grassroots movements typically aren’t as organized as you are demanding from the TPM, Foust. Criticize AFP all you want. They aren’t the first group to try and harness a mass of people. It seems rather incongruous to criticize a movement for being disorganized while also criticizing those who are trying to get it organized.

    Now that I’ve sincerely answered you without one bit of “personal invective”, do me the courtesy of the same and tell me why folks like you have such animosity toward Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher?

  • 8. John Foust  |  March 14th, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    My assertation that the teabaggers have no plan and no platform is not reasonably summarized as saying they’re merely disorganized. If I’d insulted their intelligence by pointing out the hilarious spelling errors on their signs, would it mean I was criticizing their attention to detail? Lacking a plan, strategy, tactics or candidates means they’re not even a political party. For heaven’s sake, the Greens are ahead of them on that front. Call me naive, but when AFP organizes a rally, they’re trying to advance their own goals, not help the TEAs.

    Joe the Plumber? My criticism is entirely capitalistic and realistic. “Samuel” – if that’s his real name, and where the birth certificate? – rose to fame because of an encounter where he demonstrated to Obama and the world his clear lack of understanding about the basics of business. He didn’t seem to understand the differences between gross, net, or taxable income, had no clue about the price that his boss should accept to sell his licensed small business, and didn’t even consider that he himself was unlicensed. I’ve met smarter drunk guys on bar stools. Now the nation should eagerly await his opinion? Three cheers for his desire to better himself, but why the glorification of the unaccomplished?

  • 9. Roland Melnick  |  March 14th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Clearly Joe was exploited by various factions within the newsmedia…Keith Olbermann needed a whipping boy and Mike Huckabee (a man who makes me want to retch even more than Keith) needed a saint.

    Media hype aside…I think people saw Joe’s personal life getting savaged and rallied around him as the underdog vs the Obama machine.

    I’ve met Joe. He was an affable, down to Earth guy. No one put him up to the now infamous question. For the crime of asking “The One” an uncomfortable question, he’s been trashed. Somewhere in all that whirlwind, people forgot that Obama was/is a public servant. Instead, the little guy was treated like an insolent peasant who got mud on the king’s shoes and should hang for it.

    Joe put out a book and made some money off the whole experience…such is the American way nowadays. Unless he comes up with some new shtick, his 15 minutes of fame are just about up.

  • 10. John Foust  |  March 14th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    Joe/Sam’s uncomfortable question was “I’m getting ready to buy a company that makes 250 to 280 thousand dollars a year. Your new tax plan’s going to tax me more, isn’t it?” His plan was a hallucination, by any sensible capitalistic measure. D&B estimated the business had $510K in sales. Joe/Sam was making $40K or so a year.

    Obama gave a reasonable answer for a politician, and good answer for a quick response. He did not denigrate him by any measure. So where is Joe’s pointed question? I don’t see it. Obama clearly proposed increasing taxes on a particular segment of income. Joe didn’t expose a secret. He’s not even the face of the people who would be subjected to this tax change.

    McCain tried to milk it for all it was worth, and Joe/Sam has since milked it for all it was worth. Three cheers for that, too. Would I turn to him for business advice? Heck no. Political advice? Not that, either.

  • 11. Dan  |  March 15th, 2010 at 11:54 am

    To answer Elliot’s comment, many local and state governments are laying off workers or cutting back hours. in Nevada, all state employees have had their pay cut and their hours reduced and same with many city and county employees. This is happeneing throughout the ccountry. But the federal government run by Debunked and Fousts hero’s- bureaucrats, they continue to hire more and more people even tough they cannot afford it.

  • 12. John Foust  |  March 15th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    Dan, where on Earth would you get the idea that I think bureaucrats are “heroes”?

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