Health care bill passes

March 22nd, 2010

Amnesty for illegal immigrants sure to be next

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  • 1. JJ  |  March 22nd, 2010 at 11:40 am

    …. and be able to vote!

  • 2. Debunked  |  March 22nd, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    Isn’t the richest man in the world from Mexico?

    I doubt people would have many issues with granting him citizenship.

  • 3. John Foust  |  March 22nd, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Who let all those Mexicans cross into Texas, and why?

  • 4. Elliot  |  March 22nd, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    So you guys are in favor of unregulated and unlimited immigration?

  • 5. Debunked  |  March 22nd, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Speaking technically, it is an impossibility to have unlimited immigration.

    Well, unless people begin breeding like bacteria.

  • 6. John Foust  |  March 22nd, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    A few years ago, an old friend of mine moved (legally) from his ancestral city in Mexico to Dallas, Texas. I asked him how he liked Dallas. “Great,” he said, “except there’s too many Mexicans.”

    If you’re going to present false choices like that, Elliot, I get to ask if you think several big fences would be a better solution. (The border fence between Alaska and Canada might stop some folks from getting health care, though.)

  • 7. Elliot  |  March 23rd, 2010 at 10:16 am

    I’m not trying to present false choices. I legitimately want to know how you guys think immigration should work.

    My stance on immigration is:

    1.) It should be easier to do legally.

    2.) We should give priorities to highly-skilled individuals.

    3.) Companies that knowingly hire illegals should be severely punished.

    4.) People who came to the country illegally shouldn’t be rewarded for that.

    5.) Children brought to America at a very young age shouldn’t be penalized for their parents’ decision.
    (I know this can conflict with number four. So shoot me.)

  • 8. John Foust  |  March 23rd, 2010 at 10:40 am

    I’d say I agree with those general notions. Number 3 is very hard for companies these days. They’re not allowed to ask too many questions, and the system has mechanisms to allow for correcting errors (meaning if the supplied SSN wasn’t right, the worker is given a chance to try again.)

    At the local level, I’ve learned of believable evidence of wholesale buying and selling of valid working papers, even run from within companies. Workers know it, management knows it, city officials suspect it. Yet nothing was done. It’s like Bush in Texas. They like the advantage of a cheap, subservient workwork.

    Then again, that particular company went out of business for other reasons.

  • 9. Elliot  |  March 24th, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    I am a little stuck on how to enforce number three.

    I’m exceedingly squeamish on the idea of requiring citizens to have some sort of biometric ID card, but there must be some other way of ascertaining an individual’s citizenship.

  • 10. Dan  |  March 25th, 2010 at 10:40 am

    The word you used is knowlingly and that is the key. Yes, some people are good forgers and if a company gets legitmately duped, then no problem, but if a company knowlingly hires an illegal, then they should have severe financial penalities.

  • 11. John Foust  |  March 25th, 2010 at 11:14 am

    Try to prove “knowingly”, too, without intrusive government monitoring of employer hiring practices. Why are businesses given the role of detecting illegal immigration?

  • 12. Dan  |  March 25th, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    “Why are businesses given the role of detecting illegal immigration?”
    So, if the goverment did it, if you get hired, you would have to to a government office building ala the DMV and deal with bureaucrats. Nope, don’t think so.

  • 13. John Foust  |  March 25th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    As soon as I figure out what you’re saying, Dan, I might respond.

  • 14. Dan  |  March 25th, 2010 at 11:42 pm

    Very simply, if the employers don’t do the immigration checks or see who’s legal, that leaves the government. And if this comes to pass, I see the government opening up centers to approving hiring for business, just like the DMV.

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